NC Illegals Planning Statewide Vigils on Tuesday – Sit-In Anniversary

Brave Young People De-Segregated the Woolworth's Lunch Counter in Greensboro, 51 Years Ago.

On the 51st anniversary of the Greensboro sit-ins, an instrumental moment in the North Carolina civil rights movement, those supporting the DREAM legislation plan to hold vigils.   Illegal immigrants  and their supporters are trying to hitch their wagons to the star of the black civil rights movement, a shameful act.

What those brave young people did in Greensboro, so many years ago, should not be considered in the same league with  people who have  entered the United States illegally.

It is possible to enter the U.S. LEGALLY from Mexico, but it takes time and patience.  KCC encourages those people to stand and fight their corrupt government, rather than flee here.

These “dreamers” want access to to North Carolina colleges and universities without being taxpaying citizens, despite their criminal status.  They also oppose State House Bill 11, which would prevent illegal aliens from entering North Carolina community colleges and public universities.

Sponsored by state Rep. George Cleveland (R-Onslow), the bill would prevent admission to aliens not lawfully present in the United States.

HB 11 would prevent illegals from attending public universities like NC State.

Cleveland is serving his forth term in the state house and is widely respected as one of its most conservative members.  He is not afraid to stand alone in the face of compromise and this time, the Dreamers are likely out-of-luck.  Officially they are criminals, and as such, this nation owes them nothing.

KCC lived in Guadalajara, Jalisco (Mexico).  She saw families living on rooftops in squalor and can understand their desire to flee those conditions.  No one wants to live like that.  But one must stand up and rally others for change in their own government, instead of coming here.

In other nations, many think the streets in the U.S. are literally paved with gold and that they deserve to be assisted by the U.S. government.  While, that would be nice in a dream world, these people do not understand that we have our own deeply rooted budgetary problems.  We must internally solve them before we can help anyone else.

Dream act will become a nightmare for illegals this session, in the North Carolina General Assembly.

9 Responses to “NC Illegals Planning Statewide Vigils on Tuesday – Sit-In Anniversary”

  • Cristina Isabella:

    By Conservative, I think you mean Deatheater? (Yes, that was a Harry Potter reference in case those books were banned in your library.)

    That photo you have listed has a caption describing the protestors at the Woolworth’s in Greensboro as “brave”. 51 years ago, conservatives like yourself viewed their liberal attitudes as defying social order and the law.

    You sit comfortably on a new social order that has enjoyed an increased level of understanding that has been built upon a type of bravery that you would not understand as someone who closes her heart to learning and progress.

    Because if you even had the slightest inkling of understanding what went on in Greensboro, you’d connect the dots and understand the history of segregation has not ended for all… nor has the servitude of a underclass treated in conditions next to slavery. (Yes, that was a reference to undocumented immigrants.) Education is a right, not a privilege regardless.

    If human beings like yourself extended the an equal concern and care for all humans, the history of our species would be less bloody.

    • Omega Paladin:

      > That photo you have listed has a caption describing the
      > protestors at the Woolworth’s in Greensboro as “brave”.
      > 51 years ago, conservatives like yourself viewed their
      > liberal attitudes as defying social order and the law.

      Christina, might I remind you that Republicans and Conservatives (like Charleton Heston and Ronald Reagan) supported the Civil Rights movement. The GOP supported the passage of the Civil Rights Amendment. Democrats, especially Southern ones, opposed civil rights for Blacks. Democrats were the folks who viewed civil rights as a threat to the social order. Democrats were the folks who dispatched an armed mob to Wilmington a little over a century ago to torch the city and destroy the Republican and Black political order which had won election there. The KKK’s ranks were filled with Democrats.

      > Education is a right, not a privilege regardless.

      The children of illegal immigrants in NC already have a right to a free grade school education. I don’t recall the State or Federal Constitution guaranteeing them a right to a college education, though. What about my right to not have my tax dollars subsidize a non-citizen’s education?

      > If human beings like yourself extended the an equal
      > concern and care for all humans, the history of our
      > species would be less bloody.

      Christina, I oppose illegal immigration because I care about my fellow North Carolinians. The Democrat Party only wants illegal immigrants to come here so they can be “legalized” and then bribed by welfare into voting their way. Heck, if the Democrats can block voter ID, the illegal immigrants won’t even need to become “legalized” to vote Democrat.

  • Fabian:

    Katy,
    You might have lived in Guadalajara and seen the poverty in which a lot of people live, but you did not live their reality. Many people who stand up and try to change their condition end up 6ft underground; I am sure it’s no news for you that the situation is not safe. Why insist on denying a portion of NC’s residents the opportunity to educate themselves? As Jarod mention we are not trying to get a free ride, or amnesty, we just want the opportunity to an education, it’s not costing you any money. Or tell Me how would Me paying at least three times more in tuition for community college cost you or the taxpayers money? The community college system would actually profit from my tuition.

    • Katy:

      Oh Fabian, the community college system & the UNC system never ever make a PROFIT on out-of-state students. They still lose money. Out of state students can come to NC and go to our universities and colleges and get a better deal they can in some other states’ in-state tuition rates. If we charged them what it actually cost, people would revolt.

      I attended a private college, and even then, I only paid 30 percent of the actual cost, thanks to the heavy endowment by the alumnae. I, in turn, owe my alma mater and try to donate to them as often as I can.

      I’m sorry but your argument on profit does not hold water. As far as “free education”/taxpayer paid educations, a high school diploma is still no cost to illegals.

      I do feel sorry for the Mexicans for their drug situation. I wish that I could return to Guadalajara and show my husband and son the city, but I can’t and don’t know if I will be able to in my lifetime. But I’m not responsible for that.

      -Heartless in Raleigh

  • Jared:

    Ms. Katy,

    As an undocumented student, who was brought to this country as a child, and had no say on the matter. I understand your point. However, this events are being organized entirely by us (youth) and organizations that sympathize with our plight, it is not our parents. I find it entirely irrelevant for you to hold us accountable for their actions, when the only thing they purposefully have tried to do is giving us a better life.

    I am an educated individual, who graduated from high school and is attending community college paying out-of-state tuition. I have a dream, and the academic ability, to become an engineer. I have lived in NC almost my entire life, and I consider the US home. I was educated as an American citizen, and uphold its highest principles, I just lack a SSN. I am not asking for a free pass, or an amnesty given to me or my fellow DREAMers. I would like a chance to earn it, and legally become a full citizen of this great nation. Some of us are even willing to serve in the Armed Forces and put our lives in the line because we love this country!!

    I understand you have traveled to South America and did not expect any special treatment, but you have to realize that citizens of the US do not need any special treatment, there is always a visa for a country on the south, and us here in the US have more economic power than those people.

    I also do not understand why you mean when we cost money?? We are already paying high tuition. We all pay our taxes, and had been given ITIN # issued by the IRS since 1996 for this same purpose. The difference is that while we do pay taxes, we do not get most of the money back. We are not eligible for refundable credits, or social security. Is like a one-way ATM machine where we put the little money we manage to earn mainly through hard labor, and never see the benefits. But these benefits do go to US legal citizens in welfare and unemployment benefits.

    We do honor and respect those African-Americans that fought for their Civil Rights issues and equality. We do sympathize, and vice-versa, with the NAACP and do not ask them for money. In fact, they were the ones who approached to us first here in the state. We all can organize, and create revenue by fund-raising events.

    I also, do not like it when you call us illegals. That is hate language, and as a country I thought that we had come into terms to end such. It hurts people, it hurts us. We are people fighting for a chance, or in this case to be given one. I really do not understand that. If you are curious about our way of live, why don’t you come and approach us, meet with us. Let’s talk and see why, we are also people that feel, and then write about us.

    I honestly hope that we can become a better country of understanding individuals. And when we do have questions, lets look at the very root of all, not stigmatize the results of such.

    • Omega Paladin:

      Jared wrote: “I also, do not like it when you call us illegals. That is hate language…”

      Jared, I sympathize with your plight. If I was one of your parents living in a poor third world nation crushed by government corruption and indifference, where misguided socialist policies and a rigged system prevent people from being justly rewarded for their ambition and hard work, I would feel desperate enough to break US laws and sneak into this country illegally too, so I could make a better life for my children.

      The fact remains though that what you euphemistically label as “undocumented” really means you entered the USA illegally. If you hadn’t broken the law, you would in fact be “documented”. So saying illegal immigrant is not “hate speech”, but merely accuracy in language.

      I wish America had unlimited resources to feed, clothe, heal, and educate every deserving person on this planet. But you know and I know that America does not. Just like you know that you are not a citizen here and that you’re residing here without the permission of our government. So when illegal immigrants fill our schools, our emergency rooms, our jails, etc., you impose on legal residents and you make it harder for more legal immigrants to come here. Euphemism aside, that’s the cold hard truth.

  • Katy:

    Matt,

    Your points are well-taken, and I agree that it is the children are the ones who suffer the sins of their parents. Often the parents come here just to have an “anchor baby” so they can stay and make a better life for their children. I am a parent and that is my job. I want my son to have a better life than I ever had, growing up.

    I am not devoid of compassion, but rather, I just disagree with you. I understand why they would want to flee their country in the first place. Corruption is rampant, there is no welfare system, etc. Is that the fault of this nation?

    However, these well-intentioned people cost this nation lots of money. Thanks to them, waits in our emergency rooms are six hours long for painful broken arms or worse. You and I have to pay more for our ER visits to cover them b/c they will not pay. Their credit won’t be ruined as they probably never had it to start with.

    Additionally, don’t you have honor for the blacks who worked so hard for their equal rights (and still are) in the Civil Rights movement? I see gays and lesbians, as well as these people trying to use that to their own advantage, when it was NOT done for them. Sure, the NAACP will tell you it was, but they want membership and money!

    I love the heritage of these people, but when I lived there, I went legally, and didn’t ask for any special treatment. I just wish they would go home and go through the process of returning legally, no matter how long that takes.

    It’s cheap to live in Mexico. Your money goes three times as far. Many of the friends I made there, stayed on after school to teach English. If you could speak it, you could teach it. What a wonderful way for these Mexicans who grew up in the U.S. to make a decent living. That’s much better than their parents could have ever done, and what better way to honor them?

    Yes, I realize that is making the best of a bad situation, but isn’t that is what life is often about?

    Thanks for your excellent comments and I appreciate you reading Katy’s Conservative Corner. We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

    Katy

  • Katy said: “On the 51st anniversary of the Greensboro sit-ins, an instrumental moment in the North Carolina civil rights movement, those supporting the DREAM legislation plan to hold vigils. Illegal immigrants and their supporters are trying to hitch their wagons to the star of the black civil rights movement, a shameful act. What those brave young people did in Greensboro, so many years ago, should not be considered in the same league with people who have entered the United States illegally.”

    It all just sounds so devoid of compassion Katy. After all, most of these activists are young people — even younger than me. Many of them were brought here by their parents at ages as young as months-old. It seems very unfair to punish these children, many of whom have only known this state and this nation as “home,” by first preventing them from attaining an education or second by sending them back to a nation they have never known and to a place where they will be perceived as “American” and therefore subject to threats (there are plenty of horror stories about this occurring).

    I’m not a parent, but I am the oldest child of five. I can’t imagine living in a world where my siblings would have to legally be accountable for something I did. Katy, if you’re a mother, would you want your children to be held legally accountable for something you did? It makes no sense.